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juliet ([personal profile] juliet) wrote2004-09-15 02:05 pm

This & that

The Home Office now stopping people in the street on the basis of their race (& note also that they want to stop benefits/housing for failed asylum seekers with small kids, as well. So we're getting rid of them by starving their children, are we? Fantastic).

And a less depressing link:
the Underground turned upside-down (picked this up off someone else a couple of weeks ago).

Hunt Bill being discussed today. Thumbs crossed...

Interesting site showing current US voting polls - bit depressing atm, though.

I don't think I have any US readers who are currently overseas, or indeed any US readers at all, but just in case: register online for overseas/absentee ballot.

[identity profile] lilithmagna.livejournal.com 2004-09-16 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
Simply because something is lawful, or unlawful, doesnot mean that it is right or wrong. Apartheid was lawful in its day, and the activities of the ANC were illegal. Rosa Parkes broke the law by riding in the white portuion of the bus. What do you think you mean by this phrase? See also my comments below.
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[identity profile] lilithmagna.livejournal.com 2004-09-16 09:19 am (UTC)(link)
Have you actually read any of this discussion?

Apartheid was once legal - those who resisted it were jailed for many years. This is an illustration of the difficulties with a simplistic unlawful = wrong attitude. And as the discussion makes plain at many points, persons from abroad who have reached the end of the appeals process are "sent home" (often to almost certain death) - what sparked this discussion was whether they should starve in the streets while dying of cancer while waiting to be removed.

Do you have any actual figures for this "influx" of "illegal immigrants" (sic) or are you just quoting the Daily Mail?
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[identity profile] lilithmagna.livejournal.com 2004-09-16 01:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I am neither liberal nor blinkered, but clearly there is no arguing with you, as you cannot be bothered to listen but prefer to react to what you think is being said and respond with second hand invective - presumably you saw me object to being called a liberal elsewhere inthis thread and seized the opportunity to do some more non - thinking.
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[identity profile] lilithmagna.livejournal.com 2004-09-16 07:25 pm (UTC)(link)
You don't appear to understand what an illegal immigrant is so your opinion is "blinkered" by your ignorance. Just a question; do you have a swastika on the US flag as your logo because you believe that the US is a fascist state, or because you think it should be?
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[identity profile] ergotia.livejournal.com 2004-09-17 11:55 am (UTC)(link)
But surely as a troll you must have the last word?
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[identity profile] ergotia.livejournal.com 2004-09-17 01:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I cant believe you fell for that - trolls require the last word, you went for the last word, therefore....