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juliet ([personal profile] juliet) wrote2004-09-15 02:05 pm

This & that

The Home Office now stopping people in the street on the basis of their race (& note also that they want to stop benefits/housing for failed asylum seekers with small kids, as well. So we're getting rid of them by starving their children, are we? Fantastic).

And a less depressing link:
the Underground turned upside-down (picked this up off someone else a couple of weeks ago).

Hunt Bill being discussed today. Thumbs crossed...

Interesting site showing current US voting polls - bit depressing atm, though.

I don't think I have any US readers who are currently overseas, or indeed any US readers at all, but just in case: register online for overseas/absentee ballot.

[identity profile] beingjdc.livejournal.com 2004-09-16 11:38 am (UTC)(link)
Well, you're arguing a liberal case based on the rights of individuals. If you say you personally aren't a liberal, then fair enough, it's for you to choose the description of your politics that you feel best fits.

I felt I (or at least my views) were being labelled right-wing mostly when you said you wanted to discuss them further because I 'didn't seem like a knee-jerk racist'. Implication rather being that that was the logical explanation for my views (which have turned out to be very similar in outcome to yours, except that I think we should enforce our eventual decisions)...

[identity profile] ergotia.livejournal.com 2004-09-16 11:56 am (UTC)(link)
I am arguing a case based on experience and observation not political dogma. I am a lifelong socialist , am fully aware of the holes in tha human rights agenda and as a post Marxist/Leninist I am not going to blindly spout *any* party line. I think our views differ in two main areas - firstly I am extremely uunhappy about forced removal in the vast majority of cases particularly given the problems with the system I have described and secondly I believe that anyone in this country who is destitute should be fed and sheltered regardless of how they came to be here and how near to being forcibly removed they are.