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Sign the Indymedia petition (more details on the FBI seizure of their machines at that link)

Found this on Strange Machine (marnameow should like this)

Alien Loves Predator (made kitty_goth & I laugh immoderately)

MY MONITARY SISTEM IS f1dud14ry & 133t!!!!!! (especially this one)

So where do you place a limit on invasive procedures in order to prevent terrorism? It's ok to take disks without a warrant in a region outside your jurisdiction, if it's to prevent terrorism, because fuckwits have been known to post on the site.
If that's a good indicator, how about raiding homes of people without a warrant because they are related to or work with people suspected of terrorism? Or related to or work with racists?
Racist != terrorist by default, any more than being of any race = terrorist.

"Indymedia site going down for a couple of days, versus innocent people dying in terrorist attacks."
False comparison. If the FBI can take disks from a company outside the US, what's stopping them seizing property or people of anyone in the world who exhibits 'good indicators' of terrorist sympathies. For example, anyone who's been to various countries in the Middle East - which marks you out for special questioning at US immigration. Must be a good indicator.

Fuckwits posting on the site is quite different in this case, when the site claims to be a news organisation. It's not like they're posting on the "we love osama" LJ community. The URL states 'newswire'. That's because they want people to accept that their reporting is the 'hidden truth' that the capitalist-(hem hem euphemism)-owned media doesn't want you to hear.

Fundamentally, I'm more scared of the bad guys than the good guys, though I appreciate that evil perpetrated by the notional good guys makes for better conspiracy theory fiction, which is why The Matrix was better than Men in Black. But it isn't the real world.

Fair enough re first para.
Re second - if the good guys think that what they do is good because they're the good guys, that can lead to worse consequences than the bad guys that everyone was watching closely.

Like Senator McCarthy who was a good American patriot.
Like nice Uncle Joe Stalin, staunch ally of Britain and the US.
Like Saddam Hussein, who was fighting the bad Iranians and was helped by the West.
To mention a few 'good guys' in real life who could have done with being checked earlier.

We've been through a period of history when we had to do an awful lot of messy choosing the lesser of two evils. If anything, the choice is clearer now than it has been in over half a century.

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