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juliet ([personal profile] juliet) wrote2004-09-12 06:24 pm

Hunting Bill

Just back from holiday, which was fun - update to follow.

In the meantime: the Hunting Bill has finally been reintroduced to the Commons, & the debate is on Wednesday 15th. Please email your MP to ask them to be present on Wednesday to vote in favour of the Bill and against any delay in implementation. Further details on the League website at that link.

NB I am really not terribly interested in any debate on here as to whether hunting should be banned or not. I believe, very strongly, that it should - if you agree with me, *please* email your MP. Even if you know they're pro-ban, it's still vital that you email them to make sure they attend the debate on Wednesday.

[identity profile] mstevens.livejournal.com 2004-09-12 06:57 pm (UTC)(link)
There's always http://www.faxyourmp.com/ for all your MP contacting needs.

[identity profile] ciphergoth.livejournal.com 2004-09-13 06:50 am (UTC)(link)
The League website links to that, but they prefer you go through them so they can track numbers and suchlike...

[identity profile] mstevens.livejournal.com 2004-09-13 07:01 am (UTC)(link)
On the League website I got as far as a choice between a broken link to contacting my MP, or registration where I wasn't entirely clear what I was signing up for, and gave up.

[identity profile] ciphergoth.livejournal.com 2004-09-13 07:58 am (UTC)(link)
Link works for me - you have to allow the remote site to set cookies though.

[identity profile] azureskies.livejournal.com 2004-09-12 07:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Hunting Bill? Why would we want to hunt Bill? What has he done?




Thank you, thank you. I'm here all week.

[identity profile] ciphergoth.livejournal.com 2004-09-13 07:55 am (UTC)(link)
He... overreacted.

Delay in implementation

(Anonymous) 2004-09-12 07:12 pm (UTC)(link)
If you can be interested in technical details of parliamentary procedure, rather than a sterile rehearsal of arguments for or against the ban, note that the bit of the Parliament Act allowing the Commons to put forward a small amendment (like the two-year delay here) has never yet been invoked. Exciting, no?

If I understand things correctly, the Commons can force the Lords to debate the amendment, but can't actually enact it without the Lords' co-operation (and all factions in the Lords are showing the co-operative instincts of a farrow of piglets about this bill). It's very unlikely actually to become law, though you can see why Labour's election strategists might want to try.

HTFB

Re: Delay in implementation

[identity profile] beingjdc.livejournal.com 2004-09-13 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
Well, that's up to the Lords, if they want to throw out the amendment, then the unamended bill will have to be enacted, without the delay. Ohdearwhatapityhowsad. Though obviously as an election strategist I love the fact that the next election is going to be 'vote Tory so we can keep our right to tear small animals to bits'. Can't imagine anything better except maybe 'vote Labour or the kitten gets it'.

Re: Delay in implementation

[identity profile] mstevens.livejournal.com 2004-09-13 08:08 am (UTC)(link)
I saw a RSPCA advert the other day which was pretty much "give us £3/month or we kill this cute kitten".

Re: Delay in implementation

[identity profile] beingjdc.livejournal.com 2004-09-13 08:33 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, you have to be careful not to be fooled by that, or you end up giving them money and they spend it on dogs and horses and such. Much simpler to give money directly to kittens via Cats' Protection.

[identity profile] burkesworks.livejournal.com 2004-09-12 08:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Excellent. With a bit of luck the Lords will then throw it back at the Commons, wasting more Parliamentary time and pushing far, far more insidious Bills like the odious Blunkett's ID Card Bill further down the order.

[identity profile] beingjdc.livejournal.com 2004-09-13 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
Blunkett's great. According to the Sunday Telegraph (yes, I know, the Tory Party on crack) he's planning to enforce the hunt ban by putting CCTV in trees! He's rock hard.

[identity profile] the23.livejournal.com 2004-09-16 08:29 am (UTC)(link)
another one in the eye for freedom then.