Interesting things

[juliet]

• Sign the Indymedia petition (more details on the FBI seizure of their machines at that link)


• Found this on Strange Machine (marnameow should like this)


• Alien Loves Predator (made kitty_goth & I laugh immoderately)


• MY MONITARY SISTEM IS f1dud14ry & 133t!!!!!! (especially this one)

Comments

[juliet]

See, I'm mostly concerned with the fact that a non-UK agency can seize UK property with no need to give any justification for this behaviour either at the time or afterwards. I'd be concerned about that whoever it was.

[beingjdc.livejournal.com]

I don't especially like that, but seeing as we've now signed treaties saying that British citizens can be arrested in Britain on the sayso of a magistrate in any other EU country, losing a few disks for a while to the FBI when they belong to an organisation that is sympathetic to terrorists isn't exactly high on my list of worries.

[peshwengi.livejournal.com]

People have a right to be protected by the law whether or not they are "sympathetic to terrorists" in someone else's opinion. And the USA isn't in the EU.

[beingjdc.livejournal.com]

People's right to be protected from terrorists > People's right to support terrorists.

I am, in fact, you will be surprised to hear, aware of the geographical ambit of the European Union. But forgive me for being more worried that the Greeks can arrest me than that the Americans can look at my PC.

[peshwengi.livejournal.com]

What I was getting at was really my fear that the Americans can come and look at my PC (and maybe arrest me) despite not being part of the EU.

[beingjdc.livejournal.com]

What I was getting at was really that there are plenty of non-EU countries I would rather had legal rights here than EU countries, you know, specifically the ones that have jury trials, presumptions of innocence, defence lawyers, that kind of thing.

[karen2205]

Yeah - that doesn't sound good, but is it not possible that they were (a) acting with the approval of the British authorities or (b) had a Court Order entitling them to seize the property.

Something just isn't right about this - why would the FBI risk creating a PR disaster for Bush's closest ally, weeks before the US elections? I can't believe that there wasn't British involvement somewhere along the line. And the lack of coverage in the mainstream press makes me wonder about what kind of reporting restrictions might have been imposed. It's fishy, decidely fishy.

[beingjdc.livejournal.com]

It's been in The Register, Computer Weekly, Guardian, and a fair few American papers. Generally, when there's a reporting restriction, it doesn't get into the broadsheets...