Dead Palm

Jul. 9th, 2003 11:09 am
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My Palm has died (won't switch on; when I tried resetting it the screen started flashing alarmingly & wouldn't stop). This is BAD & I am now going to have to fork out for a new one.

Inspection of the various available Palms reveals that the one I really want is the M500 (it's light, small, monochrome (I don't need colour), & has a rechargable battery). Unfortunately, this isn't readily available any more - Dabs have it for £175.07 but have to order it specially for you, no one else appears to have it at all. Or I could get one from Ebay for £75 (or maybe a bit less - that's the "buy it now" option).

The other option is the M130, which is cheaper (£139.82 from Dabs) & available, but colour, heavier, & twice the thickness. Or the M515 (£202.10 from Dabs, though, which is getting a bit expensive given that really I didn't ought to be spending the money at all, but I NEED an external brain!. And it's colour, heavier, but with more memory).

So: does anyone have any experience of the M130/M500/M515? And does it seem sensible to buy a M500 on the cheap from Ebay, or is this going to be a false economy? (the current one was second-hand, after all, & has only lasted a year, bah) Oh yes - & is that "Notepad" application (where you can write handwritten things) any good at all?

Date: 2003-07-09 03:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] simonb.livejournal.com
Its probably not quite what you'd like, but I replaced my old Palm V with a Handspring Treo 180 (http://www.handspring.co.uk/products/treo/index.asp); Dabs (http://www.dabs.com/) are currently selling them for £149 inc VAT and have 215 or so in stock at the moment (QuickLinx: 139JWS). The only problem is that they're cheap thanks to them not being made any more. Other things about it is that its a PDA-phone combo and has a keyboard rather than graffiti entry pad which may not be to your liking.

Date: 2003-07-09 03:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] simonb.livejournal.com
It comes SIM free and I had no problems in taking my Pay-as-you-go SIM from Orange and have it work straight away.

IME the keyboard is pretty easy to use and I now prefer it to Graffiti. Its good to be able to type in an SMS without having to go via T9 - the only problem I have now is that the messages get a little long, although the SMS app handily automatically breaks the message up into blocks of 160 characters as required.

Its relatively small and light. Tt measures 10cm x 7cm x 2cm (HxWxD) and weighs ~150g.

The only problem I did find is that to get GPRS working with Orange I had to switch to a contract rather than PAYG which was annoying, but possibly due to problems with Orange rather than the phone itself.

The battery life is reasonable - I normally charge it once every couple of days as I would do with a mobile. This is partly due to the office I work in causing lots of problems for mobile phone signals and thus eating up more power.

I'll have it with me on Friday if you want to have a play with it.

Date: 2003-07-09 05:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] simonb.livejournal.com

Out of interest: does it work as an organizer without a SIM in it?

Yep - just tried that on mine and it continues to work fine as a PDA.

I have been muttering previously about the usefulness of phone & PDA in same object

I've found that its been very useful to have PDA and phone in one. Advantages I've found so far are:

  • Has a reasonable screen size for web sites et al so there aren't the issues with WAP phones
  • PalmOS based - so I've been able to make use of the apps I used to run on my Palm V (i.e. YAUC, IP Calc, Launcher, etc)
  • You can use ssh from it using TGssh
  • The address book is used as the source for phone numbers for dialing, sending SMSes, etc
  • You can import the phone book from your phone SIM into the address book
  • You can back it up :)
  • Useful calender function - I used to use my phone as a reminder tool a lot of the time. The ability to set up repeating events... like the one I've got a 4:30pm today which is repeated on Mondays and Fridays which remind me to go to the gym :)
  • The pilot-link tools work under Unix as they did with my Palm V

Date: 2003-07-09 05:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] simonb.livejournal.com
Especially if the pilot-link stuff works

I had to use a serial cable for the link (required buying another cable), but this is thanks to me using Solaris.

[livejournal.com profile] sion_a also has a Treo 180 and has got the USB cable which comes with the Treo to work happily with Linux using pilot-link. AFAIR he has got it to the point that he just has to attach the Treo to the cable and press the Hot Sync button :)

Date: 2003-07-09 04:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] martling.livejournal.com
They made two models - one with the keyboard and one with the Graffiti pad.

Date: 2003-07-09 05:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] simonb.livejournal.com
Yes, but you can only get the keyboard model from Dabs. The version with the graffiti pad (Treo 180G) was never made in large quanities AFAICT and whilst you can buy it, it'll set you back £300+

All of the newer Treos are only available with keyboards now.

Date: 2003-07-09 05:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brrm.livejournal.com
Hmm, is it possible to turn the phone part off, to increase battery life (or maybe taking the SIM out achieves this)?

Date: 2003-07-09 05:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] simonb.livejournal.com
It is possible to take it out of wireless mode, in fact when the Treo first starts up (i.e. brand new or you've just reset it) it'll not be in wireless mode.

To get it into or out of wireless mode you just hold down the power button for a couple of seconds until you get a "trill" from the phone.

I found that the battery lasted about 2 weeks with the wireless mode turned off, although this wasn't a fair test as it was used as a phone for the start of that fortnight.

Date: 2003-07-09 03:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] boyofbadgers.livejournal.com
Buy a P800! Buy a P800!

Re:

Date: 2003-07-09 05:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] boyofbadgers.livejournal.com
Ooer crikey guvnor. That is a lot of cash.

Date: 2003-07-09 04:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marnameow.livejournal.com
*Stop* taunting the girl! Bad Rick!

Date: 2003-07-09 04:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marnameow.livejournal.com
Zaurus-borrowing offer still stands, if you want to see what you think of it. Is less good as an organiser and better as a portable games thingie, though.

Date: 2003-07-09 04:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marnameow.livejournal.com
No, it *is* good. I couldn't use it as an organiser because I kept being distracted by nethack!

Date: 2003-07-09 04:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] martling.livejournal.com
I'll buy the corpse off you to go towards a replacement - mine needs the spares.

Date: 2003-07-09 05:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rejs.livejournal.com
My Palm has died (won't switch on; when I tried resetting it the screen started flashing alarmingly & wouldn't stop).

What's flashing on the screen? If it's constantly flashing a Palm logo then a hard reset ought to cure it (modulo loss of all data). I had a Palm IIIC which kept crashing and doing that. Palm blamed me for using third-party software packages(!) and refused to change it, though I strongly suspected a memory fault. I now have a basic Sony Clie, though I'm being tempted by the Treo.

Date: 2003-07-09 05:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rejs.livejournal.com
This page from Palm support (http://www.palm.com/support/helpnotes/hardware/resets.html) should help. Try the warm reset first just in case, but it probably won't be sufficient.

Date: 2003-07-09 03:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daneel-olivaw.livejournal.com
Oh stop it. I damned near walked out of duty-free with a Palm Tungsten *twice* in the last two days...

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